Evidence dossier · Baptism · DR-1865-001
Citation-only release“v Americe”: Thomas in the Rouchovany register, 1865
A Rouchovany baptismal entry records a child Thomas, born 8 September and baptized 9 September 1865 at house 57. A later hand added “v Americe” (“in America”).
Source says
Both pinned project readings agree on the child Thomas, father Thomas, mother Josepha, the parentage-cell name Job, the dates, house 57, and the later note. The ledger reads the surname as Dobes; the book caption reads Dobesch. The family genealogy reports a Thomas-specific explanation for Dobeš, Dobesch, and Dobesh across languages, but the underlying 1877 original-object review remains open and the report does not decide which exact letters the priest wrote here. The literal 1865 surname remains open pending an independent reread.
We conclude
The entry directly records the birth, baptism, household, parents, and later marginal note. A pinned family-genealogy report explains the spelling relationship for Thomas; the underlying 1877 source gate and the literal 1865 reading remain open.
Still uncertain
It does not identify a particular later U.S. resident or supply a migration date, destination, vessel, or settled surname spelling.
Why this record matters
The entry joins a Moravian birth, named parents, and a later migration annotation in one original register without turning that clue into an unproved U.S. identity.
Claims and their states
| Claim | Value | State | Sources |
|---|---|---|---|
| Born | 8 September 1865 | Source fact | [1] |
| Baptized | 9 September 1865 | Source fact | [1] |
| House | No. 57 | Source fact | [1] |
| Later margin | v Americe — in America | Source fact | [1] |
| Surname reading | Spelling relationship explained in the family genealogy; exact 1865 reading still openTwo project readings propose Dobes and Dobesch. The pinned family-genealogy report gives a Thomas-specific explanation for Dobeš, Dobesch, and Dobesh, but its underlying 1877 original-object gate remains open and it cannot select the priest's exact letters. Neither candidate is indexed as a verified literal occurrence. | Relationship explained · literal reading open | [2] [3] [4] |
Exact source occurrences
Principal people and correlated identities on this page
- Thomas — child; surname unresolvedNamed directly in the source [1]Born 8 September 1865; age 160 on the R2 status date and eligible under the 120-year publication rule. [1]
- Thomas — father; surname unresolvedNamed directly in the source [1]Recorded as a parent in 1865; even a conservative minimum parental age of 12 places birth no later than 1853, within the 120-year publication rule. [1]
- Josepha (Job) — mother; Job is recorded in the parentage cellNamed directly in the source [1]Recorded as a parent in 1865; even a conservative minimum parental age of 12 places birth no later than 1853, within the 120-year publication rule. [1]
Every displayed person meets the documented-death rule or the conservative 120-year historical publication presumption; that presumption is not an identity conclusion or proof of death, and the record has been data-minimized.
2 Additional names in the source are not displayed until each receives its own eligibility and publication decision.
Sources and citations
- Evidence state
- Original register reviewed; independent surname reread remains open
- Identity state
- No later U.S. identity is adjudicated on this page
Moravian Provincial Archives in Brno
- Repository or publication
- Moravian Provincial Archives in Brno
- Full citation
- Moravian Provincial Archives in Brno, Rouchovany Roman Catholic births, book 10847, folio 177, scan 89, house 57, entry for Thomas, born 8 September and baptized 9 September 1865.
- Access
- Public
- Locator state
- Exact locator and hashed local copy
Dobesh project evidence ledger
- Repository or publication
- Dobesh project evidence ledger
- Full citation
- Dobesh project evidence ledger, pinned R2 snapshot, citation c-rou-thomas-1865; surname reading Dobes.
- Access
- Pinned offline project snapshot
- Locator state
- Exact locator
Dobesh project book-build caption
- Repository or publication
- Dobesh project book-build caption
- Full citation
- Dobesh project book-build caption, pinned R2 snapshot, 1865 Rouchovany register passage; surname reading Dobesch.
- Access
- Pinned offline project snapshot
- Locator state
- Exact locator
Dobesh Family Genealogical Record
- Repository or publication
- Dobesh family genealogy, pinned production-book source
- Full citation
- Dobesh Family Genealogical Record, “Dobeš, Dobesch, Dobesh: one rare Moravian name in three spellings,” 2026. This is a derivative family-book report; review of its underlying 1877 original object remains open.
- Access
- Pinned offline project snapshot
- Locator state
- Exact section and hashed authored source; underlying 1877 original-object gate open
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Editorial note
Only unambiguous given names and “v Americe” enter the literal-name index. The family-specific spelling history is useful context, not a substitute for paleography: Dobes and Dobesch remain visible as proposed readings but are not indexed from this record.